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	<title>Comments on: Viva España or what?</title>
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		<title>By: grancomo.com - El diseño no es un &#8220;extra de queso&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://spiekermann.com/en/viva-espana-or-what/comment-page-1/#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>grancomo.com - El diseño no es un &#8220;extra de queso&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] El mayor desconcierto llega, cuando buscando a través del glorificado sitio de la Agencia Tributaria llego a uno de sus colaboradores: la Agencia Nacional de Certificación. En su sitio, calcan sin cortarse lo más mínimo el diseño de Apple y lo revientan con contenidos superficiales e impersonales que te hacen sentir un extraño (jIyajbe&#8217;). Algo que trae tristes recuerdos. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] El mayor desconcierto llega, cuando buscando a través del glorificado sitio de la Agencia Tributaria llego a uno de sus colaboradores: la Agencia Nacional de Certificación. En su sitio, calcan sin cortarse lo más mínimo el diseño de Apple y lo revientan con contenidos superficiales e impersonales que te hacen sentir un extraño (jIyajbe’). Algo que trae tristes recuerdos. […]</p>
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		<title>By: johno</title>
		<link>http://spiekermann.com/en/viva-espana-or-what/comment-page-1/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>johno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand some two-bit start-up running this kind of competition (that does nothing for the graphic design industry), but governments! What&#039;s the saying? &quot;You pay peanuts, you get...&quot;.

Of course, they should have contacted Spiekermann and co. and, although that kind of flattery will get me nowhere, it may have -- in all seriousness -- produced a better end product; a real logo, rather than an ersatz one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand some two-bit start-up running this kind of competition (that does nothing for the graphic design industry), but governments! What’s the saying? “You pay peanuts, you get…”.</p>
<p>Of course, they should have contacted Spiekermann and co. and, although that kind of flattery will get me nowhere, it may have — in all seriousness — produced a better end product; a real logo, rather than an ersatz one.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragos</title>
		<link>http://spiekermann.com/en/viva-espana-or-what/comment-page-1/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 22:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saffron Consultants were there and the Spanish government didn&#039;t used Wally for such a task? Too bad.

Public contests will give poor quality almost every time. Plus, you can ruin your reputation in a second, just like the designer who &quot;found&quot; the same solution for the Spanish problem. I mean, what he was thinking? That no one will found out?

But in my opinion, the designer is not to be blamed entirely, but rather put the guilt on the council who approved such a solution without further research to see if anything like it could come up. Shame on them. They got what they asked for I guess...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saffron Consultants were there and the Spanish government didn’t used Wally for such a task? Too bad.</p>
<p>Public contests will give poor quality almost every time. Plus, you can ruin your reputation in a second, just like the designer who “found” the same solution for the Spanish problem. I mean, what he was thinking? That no one will found out?</p>
<p>But in my opinion, the designer is not to be blamed entirely, but rather put the guilt on the council who approved such a solution without further research to see if anything like it could come up. Shame on them. They got what they asked for I guess…</p>
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		<title>By: Axel Leyer</title>
		<link>http://spiekermann.com/en/viva-espana-or-what/comment-page-1/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>Axel Leyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A copy...just a bad copy, bad proportioned, bad harmorny...and a bad tipography choice for a Goverment...
JUST INCREDIBLE!  That was the best idea?.

Like Ortega y Gasset said &quot;When you copy, you stole others solutions for others problems... so you can not know if it works because you didn´t think in your own problem and how to solve it...&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A copy…just a bad copy, bad proportioned, bad harmorny…and a bad tipography choice for a Goverment…<br />
JUST INCREDIBLE!  That was the best idea?.</p>
<p>Like Ortega y Gasset said “When you copy, you stole others solutions for others problems… so you can not know if it works because you didn´t think in your own problem and how to solve it…”</p>
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		<title>By: Xande Macedo</title>
		<link>http://spiekermann.com/en/viva-espana-or-what/comment-page-1/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Xande Macedo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 00:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh god. People have just no shame!
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.margen.com/aviso.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.margen.com/aviso.htm&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh god. People have just no shame!<br />
<a href="http://www.margen.com/aviso.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.margen.com/aviso.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: russellm</title>
		<link>http://spiekermann.com/en/viva-espana-or-what/comment-page-1/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>russellm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How unfortunate - Is it that difficult to vet the results of competitions for originality and plagerism? More importantly, what on earth are governments thinking when to turn this sort of thing into a contest?

Quality is another story of course - Here&#039;s the logo for the Canadian province of Newfoundland.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gov.nf.ca/brand/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.gov.nf.ca/brand/&lt;/a&gt;
As far as I know this was not the result of a contest.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How unfortunate — Is it that difficult to vet the results of competitions for originality and plagerism? More importantly, what on earth are governments thinking when to turn this sort of thing into a contest?</p>
<p>Quality is another story of course — Here’s the logo for the Canadian province of Newfoundland.<br />
<a href="http://www.gov.nf.ca/brand/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gov.nf.ca/brand/</a><br />
As far as I know this was not the result of a contest.</p>
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		<title>By: bel</title>
		<link>http://spiekermann.com/en/viva-espana-or-what/comment-page-1/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>bel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all the designers born in Spain have the same wrong blood... Repullés is one of the bad apples.
By the way the contest bases published by the Spanish Government were wrote using the &quot;tipography&quot; comic sans! I think the problem is not here (in Spain) are not good designers... Is a problem about the general graphic culture that have most of the Spanish institutions, beginning for our Government. And it&#039;s very very sad, specially for us, the spanish designers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all the designers born in Spain have the same wrong blood… Repullés is one of the bad apples.<br />
By the way the contest bases published by the Spanish Government were wrote using the “tipography” comic sans! I think the problem is not here (in Spain) are not good designers… Is a problem about the general graphic culture that have most of the Spanish institutions, beginning for our Government. And it’s very very sad, specially for us, the spanish designers.</p>
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		<title>By: dario</title>
		<link>http://spiekermann.com/en/viva-espana-or-what/comment-page-1/#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>dario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops!

Well, at least it didn&#039;t cost € 100k like this one: &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/yv94gp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/yv94gp&lt;/a&gt; . What were the members of the jury thinking, though?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops!</p>
<p>Well, at least it didn’t cost € 100k like this one: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yv94gp" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yv94gp</a> . What were the members of the jury thinking, though?</p>
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		<title>By: Belén</title>
		<link>http://spiekermann.com/en/viva-espana-or-what/comment-page-1/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>Belén</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I´m a spanish designer. It´s  clear that in my country &quot;Design&quot; is not yet a common word. It´s still not respected by people, goberment and cultural institutions. There are not public quality design schools (big part of the problem) and although the situation has improved in the lasts years and there are a lot of excellent designers, our work is still not respected as how it should.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I´m a spanish designer. It´s  clear that in my country “Design” is not yet a common word. It´s still not respected by people, goberment and cultural institutions. There are not public quality design schools (big part of the problem) and although the situation has improved in the lasts years and there are a lot of excellent designers, our work is still not respected as how it should.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocío Martinavarro</title>
		<link>http://spiekermann.com/en/viva-espana-or-what/comment-page-1/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocío Martinavarro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a shame.
It&#039;s so bad copied, too: the proportions suck.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.summa.es/wordpress/?p=476&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.summa.es/wordpress/?p=476&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s a shame.<br />
It’s so bad copied, too: the proportions suck.<br />
<a href="http://www.summa.es/wordpress/?p=476" rel="nofollow">http://www.summa.es/wordpress/?p=476</a></p>
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