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	<description>Typomania is incurable but not lethal.</description>
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		<title>By: Reynir Heiðberg Stefánsson</title>
		<link>http://spiekermann.com/en/treble/comment-page-1/#comment-625</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynir Heiðberg Stefánsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I wonder how many will notice if I turn these numbers upside down...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I wonder how many will notice if I turn these numbers upside down…”</p>
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		<title>By: Youssef Sarhan</title>
		<link>http://spiekermann.com/en/treble/comment-page-1/#comment-601</link>
		<dc:creator>Youssef Sarhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look what we have here..

http://twitpic.com/1a96f6

Spotted this on the way to college today.</description>
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<p><a href="http://twitpic.com/1a96f6" rel="nofollow">http://twitpic.com/1a96f6</a></p>
<p>Spotted this on the way to college today.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always amazing what happens when there is a conversation about something that most people never notice. Makes me wonder what I am missing in other domains. And thanks Erik for publishing this shot, I thought of you when I took it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always amazing what happens when there is a conversation about something that most people never notice. Makes me wonder what I am missing in other domains. And thanks Erik for publishing this shot, I thought of you when I took it…</p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I didn’t know that, and I don’t believe it, but it’s great idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I didn’t know that, and I don’t believe it, but it’s great idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Youssef Sarhan</title>
		<link>http://spiekermann.com/en/treble/comment-page-1/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>Youssef Sarhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a number appears as many times as its value you are supposed to be set them upside down.

333
4444
55555
666666

and so on, surprised you didn&#039;t know that erik.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a number appears as many times as its value you are supposed to be set them upside down.</p>
<p>333<br />
4444<br />
55555<br />
666666</p>
<p>and so on, surprised you didn’t know that erik.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real odd thing about those figures is that they are not 3&#039;s, as they would be facing the other way around (i assume the back side of each plate is pure white so they can be rotated but not flipped). They are obviously not hacked 8&#039;s either. Therefore the person might actually know something we don&#039;t about the magical number of 333.. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real odd thing about those figures is that they are not 3’s, as they would be facing the other way around (i assume the back side of each plate is pure white so they can be rotated but not flipped). They are obviously not hacked 8’s either. Therefore the person might actually know something we don’t about the magical number of 333.. <img src='http://spiekermann.com/en/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: erik spiekermann</title>
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		<dc:creator>erik spiekermann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As i state under the &quot;about&quot; heading, i am sick with Typomania, so i see things that other people do not. Your analysis is spot on as far as the rest of mankind is concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As i state under the “about” heading, i am sick with Typomania, so i see things that other people do not. Your analysis is spot on as far as the rest of mankind is concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Marks</title>
		<link>http://spiekermann.com/en/treble/comment-page-1/#comment-527</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we readers and writers of typography blogs immediately recognized the error, there is unlikely to be any error in reading the sign. Everybody can easily see the premium gas is $3.339 per gallon. Despite the frequency of vertically flipped 3s and 8s, I have yet to see a gross error such as a figure flipped horizontally.

The 3s on the bottom are clearly flipped vertically and are not modified 8s. To my eye, the 3s oriented correctly look like they are symmetric; however, if you were to flip them vertically (e.g. in Photoshop; I did) they&#039;d obviously be upside down, and they&#039;d look exactly like the 3s on the bottom. So a casual observer might think at first glance that the 3s actually are symmetric.

Many people probably think the figure 3 really is symmetric about a horizontal axis. Such figures probably are, at least the way we learn them in American schools. (I&#039;m from California too.)

At normal reading distances, such as the vantage point of the photograph, the asymmetry is apparent. From the viewpoint of someone handling the actual figures, an unnaturally close reading distance, it might not be apparent.

There might also be a mechanical explanation. The upper two prices could have been installed while the person was standing up. The bottommost price could have required the installer to bend over, which might have affected the motion he used in pulling letters out of the box (or whatever they were stored in) resulting in the figures being installed incorrectly.

But even if the gas station owner realized the error, or it was pointed out to him, he probably doesn&#039;t care. After all, this is of concern only to type geeks, and gas prices are going to change again next week anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we readers and writers of typography blogs immediately recognized the error, there is unlikely to be any error in reading the sign. Everybody can easily see the premium gas is $3.339 per gallon. Despite the frequency of vertically flipped 3s and 8s, I have yet to see a gross error such as a figure flipped horizontally.</p>
<p>The 3s on the bottom are clearly flipped vertically and are not modified 8s. To my eye, the 3s oriented correctly look like they are symmetric; however, if you were to flip them vertically (e.g. in Photoshop; I did) they’d obviously be upside down, and they’d look exactly like the 3s on the bottom. So a casual observer might think at first glance that the 3s actually are symmetric.</p>
<p>Many people probably think the figure 3 really is symmetric about a horizontal axis. Such figures probably are, at least the way we learn them in American schools. (I’m from California too.)</p>
<p>At normal reading distances, such as the vantage point of the photograph, the asymmetry is apparent. From the viewpoint of someone handling the actual figures, an unnaturally close reading distance, it might not be apparent.</p>
<p>There might also be a mechanical explanation. The upper two prices could have been installed while the person was standing up. The bottommost price could have required the installer to bend over, which might have affected the motion he used in pulling letters out of the box (or whatever they were stored in) resulting in the figures being installed incorrectly.</p>
<p>But even if the gas station owner realized the error, or it was pointed out to him, he probably doesn’t care. After all, this is of concern only to type geeks, and gas prices are going to change again next week anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention SpiekerBlog » Blog Archive » Treble-trouble -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Keith Errington, Type is Beautiful. Type is Beautiful said: Erik Spiekermann 抱怨美国加州的油价牌对待字牌的粗暴，问题在哪里？ http://spiekermann.com/en/treble/ 研究字要火眼金睛。想到去年圣学子的一篇： http://bit.ly/lyBHY [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Keith Errington, Type is Beautiful. Type is Beautiful said: Erik Spiekermann 抱怨美国加州的油价牌对待字牌的粗暴，问题在哪里？ <a href="http://spiekermann.com/en/treble/" rel="nofollow">http://spiekermann.com/en/treble/</a> 研究字要火眼金睛。想到去年圣学子的一篇： <a href="http://bit.ly/lyBHY" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/lyBHY</a> […]</p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, people who put the numbers on those signs are not university graduates. It’s just surprising that with odds of 50:50, more often than not they get it wrong. Or on the money, as in my example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, people who put the numbers on those signs are not university graduates. It’s just surprising that with odds of 50:50, more often than not they get it wrong. Or on the money, as in my example.</p>
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